Comments on: The Recovering Creative: Self Debt, Doubt and Dough http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed Part salon...think tank...creative meditation...inspiration Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:32:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: The Recovering Creative Returns | The Writer's [Inner] Journey http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-872 The Recovering Creative Returns | The Writer's [Inner] Journey Wed, 06 Jan 2010 16:57:36 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-872 [...] the Recovering Creative. I’ve posted here about overcoming fears related to money. I shared a few stories. People were interested; they related and asked for more. I got emails. I [...] [...] the Recovering Creative. I’ve posted here about overcoming fears related to money. I shared a few stories. People were interested; they related and asked for more. I got emails. I [...]

]]> By: Alisa Bowman http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-215 Alisa Bowman Wed, 09 Sep 2009 01:00:17 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-215 I think as freelancers, it's normal to doubt our worth. Society doesn't really value "writing" unless the writer is famous. So we feel the need to prove ourselves. It wasn't until fairly recently, when I was able to surround myself with a group of people who convinced me of my worth, that I was able to know it in such a way that I could say, "Hey, this is what I'm worth. You don't want to pay it? You don't get me." But it took a really long time and the constant support of some really great people. I think as freelancers, it's normal to doubt our worth. Society doesn't really value "writing" unless the writer is famous. So we feel the need to prove ourselves. It wasn't until fairly recently, when I was able to surround myself with a group of people who convinced me of my worth, that I was able to know it in such a way that I could say, "Hey, this is what I'm worth. You don't want to pay it? You don't get me." But it took a really long time and the constant support of some really great people.

]]> By: MarthaAndMe http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-211 MarthaAndMe Tue, 08 Sep 2009 11:47:06 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-211 I think that it becomes easier to prioritize these things, the older you get. I also think it's too simple to say there is an absolute order. Yes, family comes 'first' but we still do work on days we would rather lounge with the kids I think that it becomes easier to prioritize these things, the older you get. I also think it's too simple to say there is an absolute order. Yes, family comes 'first' but we still do work on days we would rather lounge with the kids

]]> By: ReadyMom http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-205 ReadyMom Mon, 07 Sep 2009 18:02:40 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-205 As freelancers, I think prioritizing is key. As any financial planner will tell you, you have to evaluate your goals first and then make sure your actions work toward those goals. For me, I prioritize my writing goals around my first priority--my family. And frankly, they are the inspiration for some of my best stories. As freelancers, I think prioritizing is key. As any financial planner will tell you, you have to evaluate your goals first and then make sure your actions work toward those goals. For me, I prioritize my writing goals around my first priority–my family. And frankly, they are the inspiration for some of my best stories.

]]> By: Peggy Bourjaily http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-203 Peggy Bourjaily Mon, 07 Sep 2009 16:37:55 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-203 Oy! I'm still that person that's just happy for an assignment! I have finally mustered up the courage though to tell one editor that I usually charge x for copy and she was cook about it. While I didn't get x, I still at least had my say and I think the next time will be easier! Oy! I'm still that person that's just happy for an assignment! I have finally mustered up the courage though to tell one editor that I usually charge x for copy and she was cook about it. While I didn't get x, I still at least had my say and I think the next time will be easier!

]]> By: Liz Zuercher http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-197 Liz Zuercher Mon, 07 Sep 2009 00:20:30 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-197 Putting a dollar value on my efforts, creative or otherwise, makes me squirm, probably because I never think they're worth much. It seems the height of hubris to attach a high price to something I've created. My artist husband has had this dilemma for years as he's priced his own works of art for sale to the public and decided what to charge other artists for the work he does for them. I can hear our accountant's constant complaint ringing in my ears: "You need to charge more for your work! If you don't get a fair price, you might as well be taking a walk on the beach." In this instance I think the bean counters have a better grasp on value than us insecure creative types do. Putting a dollar value on my efforts, creative or otherwise, makes me squirm, probably because I never think they're worth much. It seems the height of hubris to attach a high price to something I've created. My artist husband has had this dilemma for years as he's priced his own works of art for sale to the public and decided what to charge other artists for the work he does for them. I can hear our accountant's constant complaint ringing in my ears: "You need to charge more for your work! If you don't get a fair price, you might as well be taking a walk on the beach." In this instance I think the bean counters have a better grasp on value than us insecure creative types do.

]]> By: Susan Matthewson http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-196 Susan Matthewson Sun, 06 Sep 2009 20:09:14 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-196 When I worked as a free-lance writer, I always had the same problem--never knowing quite how much to charge, so I always charged less than what I thought others were getting but more than I thought I probably deserved--that old self-debt, self-doubt are all bound up together. <br /><br />And what Susan Cameron says is so true as far as women are concerned--being undervalued and underpaid--though I think that is changing gradually. <br /><br />I still keep waiting for Michael Anthony from that old television show, The Millionaire, to knock on my door and present me with a million dollar check from John Beresford Tipton, the fictional industrialist who provided the checks. When we were young and broke, my husband and I used to stop every time the door bell rang, look at each other, and without saying it, we both just knew we were thinking the same thing--would we open the door and find Michael Anthony standing there?<br /><br />Unfortunately, Michael Anthony never showed up, so I just had to do the best I could and try to charge a fair price, though when I look back, I know that I undervalued myself. When I worked as a free-lance writer, I always had the same problem–never knowing quite how much to charge, so I always charged less than what I thought others were getting but more than I thought I probably deserved–that old self-debt, self-doubt are all bound up together.

And what Susan Cameron says is so true as far as women are concerned–being undervalued and underpaid–though I think that is changing gradually.

I still keep waiting for Michael Anthony from that old television show, The Millionaire, to knock on my door and present me with a million dollar check from John Beresford Tipton, the fictional industrialist who provided the checks. When we were young and broke, my husband and I used to stop every time the door bell rang, look at each other, and without saying it, we both just knew we were thinking the same thing–would we open the door and find Michael Anthony standing there?

Unfortunately, Michael Anthony never showed up, so I just had to do the best I could and try to charge a fair price, though when I look back, I know that I undervalued myself.

]]> By: jenhaupt http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-195 jenhaupt Sun, 06 Sep 2009 19:13:48 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-195 Money is such a hot button for writers, and all creatives, glad you wrote about it. That old corny phrase, "Do what you love and the money will follow..." for me, it's true. It's a real test of faith to try and live that way, but every day that I do is a good day. Money is such a hot button for writers, and all creatives, glad you wrote about it. That old corny phrase, "Do what you love and the money will follow…" for me, it's true. It's a real test of faith to try and live that way, but every day that I do is a good day.

]]> By: Patry Francis http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-194 Patry Francis Sun, 06 Sep 2009 18:07:16 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-194 I've watched Suze on Oprah too, but I usually identify with the person she's screaming at for screwing things up.<br /><br />Glad to have discovered your blog. I've watched Suze on Oprah too, but I usually identify with the person she's screaming at for screwing things up.

Glad to have discovered your blog.

]]> By: ruth pennebaker http://writersinnerjourney.com/2009/09/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough.html/comment-page-1#comment-193 ruth pennebaker Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:41:38 +0000 http://writersinnerjourney.com/the-recovering-creative-self-debt-doubt-and-dough/#comment-193 I also think women still have a harder time asking for what they're worth. I still am capable of caving into the thrill that someone wants me and my work -- and forgetting that I deserve to be well-paid. I also think women still have a harder time asking for what they're worth. I still am capable of caving into the thrill that someone wants me and my work — and forgetting that I deserve to be well-paid.

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